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Title: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: USMCPMEL on 09-08-2011 -- 09:46:38
Amnyone know what might cause that? Checked the switch contacts they look ok. I also put in a fresh battery that did not help either.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Bryan on 09-08-2011 -- 12:08:06
Did you try cleaning out the connectors with a Q-tip & some alcohol or similar?  Kind of a long shot and it's not range specific but I just can't get rid of that unfortunate memory of my dispensary visit while I was in Korea.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Hawaii596 on 09-08-2011 -- 13:33:45
If the DC volts pot is adjusted for an exact 1900 counts (1.9 VDC on 1.9 range, etc.), the next suspect for me would be contacts on the function switch.  You might try cleaning the function switch contacts, as they cause some oddities.  If when you put a good short on it, you get zero, and on DC volts you get an exact reading, and the function switch is cleaned, it has a problem.  Those are such robust DMM's, I would suspect some sort of damage.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: michthai on 09-08-2011 -- 18:23:16
It has been a while since I've worked on one of these; but, if there is a fuse in that circuit check to make sure someone hasn't put a slow blow fuse or the wrong size in there.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Hawaii596 on 09-09-2011 -- 06:49:35
I can't remember on the 77, but on the 87 there are only fuses for current, but not resistance.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: USMCPMEL on 09-09-2011 -- 10:17:04
Tried all the above. Ended up replacing the resistor next to the fusible resistor. That fixed most of the problem but I am still out of tolerance on 100 ohm range and 1000 ohm range. 100 ohms is 15 ohms high 1000 ohms is 9 ohms high. All other ranges work fine and are within tolerance.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Lasario on 09-11-2011 -- 16:26:16
Have you checked the MOV's? I have seen these partially short and provide a parallel resistance path that skews the readings.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: USMCPMEL on 09-13-2011 -- 09:48:08
MOV's are fine still stumped...
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: michthai on 09-15-2011 -- 20:30:53
This may sound kind of radical; but, it does work on analog meters. Just take a shorting wire and start going across the resistors in/around that circuit. When you hit one that changes the UUT reading you can then either parallel a decade box across it or lift one end and put the decade box in it's place. Putting the decade box in there gives you the opportunity to see not only what it does to the range you are looking at; but, it also allows you to check the other ranges without soldering and unsoldering components.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Foghorn1776 on 09-15-2011 -- 21:54:31
Just NRTS it!!!! :-D
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: USMCPMEL on 09-16-2011 -- 07:53:02
What does NRTS mean?
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: metrologygeek on 09-16-2011 -- 08:50:58
Not Repairable This Station

8-)
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Hawaii596 on 09-16-2011 -- 08:58:40
I never heard that one (and I've been in the biz 34 years).  Is that USAF lingo?
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: metrologygeek on 09-16-2011 -- 10:51:18
Yup. It's the status you use to send an item to Depot repair. Or at least it was in 1982.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: griff61 on 09-16-2011 -- 12:48:28
Quote from: metrologygeek on 09-16-2011 -- 10:51:18
Yup. It's the status you use to send an item to Depot repair. Or at least it was in 1982.
Still is, in the Army anyway. Used to send it off to salvage
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Hawaii596 on 09-16-2011 -- 13:01:44
I guess the Navy had a world all its own.
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: metrologygeek on 09-16-2011 -- 13:40:11
Waterworld...?
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Hawaii596 on 09-16-2011 -- 18:31:04
Ah.... ha ha. 
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: measure on 09-20-2011 -- 15:26:13
Quote from: Hawaii596 on 09-16-2011 -- 08:58:40
I never heard that one (and I've been in the biz 34 years).  Is that USAF lingo?

There are numeric suffixes for (Army) NRTS codes:

NRTS-1: Repair Not Authorized
NRTS-2: Lack of Equipment, Tools, or Facilities
NRTS-3: Lack of Technical Skills
NRTS-4: Lack of Parts
NRTS-5: Shop Backlog
NRTS-6: Lack of Technical Data
NRTS-7: Excess to Base Requirements
NRTS-8: <Not Used>
NRTS-9: Condemned

The USAF codes are the same, except:
NRTS-8: Return to Depot by Direction of <specified authority>
NRTS-10: Repair Not Authorized; Item Under Warranty
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: Hoopty on 09-20-2011 -- 21:43:09
Quote from: Hawaii596 on 09-16-2011 -- 08:58:40
I never heard that one (and I've been in the biz 34 years).  Is that USAF lingo?
It never hurts to NRTS...
Title: Re: Fluke 77 all ohms ranges reading low 1900 ohms is reading 1865
Post by: jimmyc on 09-21-2011 -- 07:42:45
Quote from: Hawaii596 on 09-16-2011 -- 08:58:40
I never heard that one (and I've been in the biz 34 years).  Is that USAF lingo?

NRTS = BCM