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Title: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: spanishfly25 on 07-10-2012 -- 13:32:57
We are in the process of replacing all of our paper temperature and humidity recorders with paperless recorders. The Honeywell Multitrend recorder looks so far as the best choice but kind of pricy, does anyone have other recommendations for cheaper and reliable recorder?
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: yonker08 on 07-10-2012 -- 20:52:37
If you have multiple locations to monitor; Omega use to sell ckt cards that can accept up to 16 inputs. The monitor probes were sold separately. I looked into this years ago to monitor the temps and humidity in 9 different missile test stations. It was cheaper then buying separate recorders. The only snag was the software.     
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: spanishfly25 on 07-11-2012 -- 07:32:16
I need them for Walk in freezers and stability chambers. They already have a Reese monitoring system that alarms security when anything changes. They want the recorders as back up system and also to give a local display to technicians.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: yonker08 on 07-11-2012 -- 09:09:33
I would still recommend Omega. They're on-line and you can order their 40lbs of catalogs :-D
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: B-rad 4d on 07-12-2012 -- 06:59:03
The past few bases I have been to used the Hart Scientific 1620. It is very reliable and easy to use. They run about 2K.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: michael morris on 06-30-2013 -- 21:59:39
Probably the best Paperless Chart Recorder available that is cost effective is Monarch Instruments DC Series and others. Simple to order, configure and if the unit needs repair and/or calibration (ANZI z540, ISO 17025 ISO 9001, etc. you can call their Rep in Houston- American Analog Co and purchase, repair a existing unit and calibration too- they do alot and have had many needing cal and good nice knowlegable people. Worth checking out. Let me know your findings- I'd be interested.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: Hawaii596 on 07-01-2013 -- 08:16:34
I don't think the term "paperless chart recorder" has to be used.  Basically, based on the needs, there are a few options that may work.  There are also many digital and analogue transmitters on the market with or without local or remote displays.  You can program them with various software  to log readings.  Some of them are very accurate.  Companies like Newport Instruments, Rotronic, Vaisala - and of course, good old Omega are a few.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: niagarasci on 07-08-2013 -- 10:48:23
You might want to check out Madgetech.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: Velasco on 07-23-2013 -- 22:34:06
(http://us.flukecal.com/sites/flukecal.com/files/imagecache/product-detail-large/products/Fhs-1620a_04a_200p.jpg)
http://us.flukecal.com/products/temperature-calibration/digital-thermometer-readouts/1620a-digital-thermometer-hygrometer?quicktabs_product_details=3 (http://us.flukecal.com/products/temperature-calibration/digital-thermometer-readouts/1620a-digital-thermometer-hygrometer?quicktabs_product_details=3)
These are the Electronic Chart recorders that most AF labs use now and they have proven to be very reliable, a little pricey though at about $2k.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: griff61 on 07-26-2013 -- 14:12:14
Quote from: Velasco on 07-23-2013 -- 22:34:06
(http://us.flukecal.com/sites/flukecal.com/files/imagecache/product-detail-large/products/Fhs-1620a_04a_200p.jpg)
http://us.flukecal.com/products/temperature-calibration/digital-thermometer-readouts/1620a-digital-thermometer-hygrometer?quicktabs_product_details=3 (http://us.flukecal.com/products/temperature-calibration/digital-thermometer-readouts/1620a-digital-thermometer-hygrometer?quicktabs_product_details=3)
These are the Electronic Chart recorders that most AF labs use now and they have proven to be very reliable, a little pricey though at about $2k.
We use the same model here
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: CalibratorJ on 07-26-2013 -- 21:04:47
Quote from: griff61 on 07-26-2013 -- 14:12:14
Quote from: Velasco on 07-23-2013 -- 22:34:06
(http://us.flukecal.com/sites/flukecal.com/files/imagecache/product-detail-large/products/Fhs-1620a_04a_200p.jpg)
http://us.flukecal.com/products/temperature-calibration/digital-thermometer-readouts/1620a-digital-thermometer-hygrometer?quicktabs_product_details=3 (http://us.flukecal.com/products/temperature-calibration/digital-thermometer-readouts/1620a-digital-thermometer-hygrometer?quicktabs_product_details=3)
These are the Electronic Chart recorders that most AF labs use now and they have proven to be very reliable, a little pricey though at about $2k.
We use the same model here
We use em too. I think most, if not all, of the Army labs use them now. The mfr software can be a pain in the butt to install but is just fine once you learn the ins and outs of it. But, we have an routine that captures the data via LAN connection and stores, manipulates it (we're never OOT- JUST KIDDING!), and so on and so forth.
A big plus is they have two ports, so you can monitor two rooms or a lab and a test chamber using one instrument with 2 probes.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: Squidley on 07-29-2013 -- 08:35:30
any chance we could get a copy of that program?
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: griff61 on 07-30-2013 -- 13:58:07
Quote from: Squidley on 07-29-2013 -- 08:35:30
any chance we could get a copy of that program?
Ditto...please
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: CalibratorJ on 07-30-2013 -- 19:26:00
Sorry Squid and Griff, I highly doubt I could get it for you.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: griff61 on 07-31-2013 -- 09:04:21
Quote from: CalibratorJ on 07-30-2013 -- 19:26:00
Sorry Squid and Griff, I highly doubt I could get it for you.
We could really use it at White Sands...but I see how you are, lol
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: Squidley on 07-31-2013 -- 09:18:55
Are you at one of the Military/Gov labs in Huntsville, Alabama? Which one?
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: CalibratorJ on 07-31-2013 -- 11:27:52
Aw come on griff, you know I'm a nice guy, most of the time. Sent you a PM squid  :-)

Besides griff, you would have to create a new internal network to put them on. You know that's a huge no no nowadays. I'm really surprised we still have ours - but since it is tied to the website and all of our measurement data storage, I guess the doim monkeys gave it the blessing of the bananas......
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: griff61 on 07-31-2013 -- 13:13:09
Quote from: CalibratorJ on 07-31-2013 -- 11:27:52Besides griff, you would have to create a new internal network to put them on.

You make a good point...hate when that happens. You're still a good guy in my books.
Title: Re: Paperless Chart Recorders
Post by: CalibratorJ on 07-31-2013 -- 13:57:00
Well, at least SOMEBODY still thinks I'm a good guy! So that makes a total of ....... ONE so far LMAO

Oh, and I may have misspoken earlier. I don't think it is an actual piece of software as much as a routine or macro, but what do I know, I'm not a software guy. It's all greek to me. Want to break some software/ macros? Lemme at em, 5 seconds and I'll have em broken beyond repair, once I figure out how to save it.