The Pacific Rim Exercise is the largest naval war game and has other countries who participate. After the last exercise about 40 small whales became disoriented and some beached themselves. The enviromental groups blamed the High Intensity Radar used in searching for submarines. This year they are trying to halt the exercise all together. According to GreenPeace , The Sierra Club and a handful of other groups the well being of the marine life is much greater than our own. Forget defending our country, we need to defend the fish. These people of course are not like the rest of us. For one they never served a day defending the U.S. and never will. All of these people are homos, yellowbacked, cowards. I would like to kick their a$$. How stupid can one be. I would be the first to harpon a whale if given a half a chance. THis stupidity makes me so mad I might just go and shoot dolphins out in international waters.
So the bottom line is EnviroMENTAL wackos make gas prices go up and prevent the Navy from securing our waters. The Navy agreed to use Medium Intensity Radar for the exercise. I hope that kills 2000 whales! Look I don't give a crap about dolphins or whales. If they were so smart they would walk on land and have better computers than we have. They are F*CK!nG FISH and nothing else. I vote we change GreenPeace's name to YellowBack Peace. PU$$!E$. They need to grow up and act like men, but then again 99% of the EnviroMENTAL men are GAY.
If they don't like the execises with the modern Navy, I suppose we could always do away with the radar, sonar, etc. and revert back to a wooden navy. Wood frigates, 1st, 2nd and 3rd rate ships of the line. All it would take is cutting down a number of old oak groves, raising hemp for rope, putting the mills back on line to produce canvas, casting muzzleloading cannon. Changing the diet back to ships biscuit, salt meat, peas, rice, a daily tot of rum.
It would save the whales, oh forgot we'd need whale oil on that type of vessel. Well, I guess this idea won't work either, it'll tick off the tree huggers and all the rest of them. :evil:
we can take the whales and feed the hungary people in Africa! :-D
I can't believe you said that! We are talking about whales man! We shoud take the hungry people out of Africa and feed them to the whales.
It's not just the whales...........
http://www.noolf.com/
Then again it is the whales and much more.................
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/14499976.htm
Why are they always picking on the Navy? We can't train anywhere. Them Bastards. I say we train on them! :evil:
The right wing weights in again...
There are two DJ's in Virginia Beach, Tommy and Rumble of FM99 WNOR who have a Stripper fishing tournament every year and it is just off the shore from PETA. It is a big thing.
Quote from: bradley563 on 07-07-2006 -- 20:52:05
There are two DJ's in Virginia Beach, Tommy and Rumble of FM99 WNOR who have a Stripper fishing tournament every year and it is just off the shore from PETA. It is a big thing.
When is the STRIPPER touney...........I want to be involved in this.
If it's just Stripers....then I will wait till this winter and wreak havoc off the outerbanks
Quote from: Valdic on 07-07-2006 -- 17:07:33
The right wing weights in again...
What does this mean? It sounds like someone is against defending our country with all means possible.
If you have another solution we would love to hear it. You lefties only complain and offer no other solution. We are just having a little fun here with the whole problem, but we would love to have an alternitive that would not harm marine life, but the fact is we don't. Yeah it sucks that we are causing problems with sonar, but we have to defend our waters. So what is your solution? I am sure the Navy would love to hear it.
Quote from: Valdic on 07-07-2006 -- 17:07:33
The right wing weights in again...
Who are you?! :?
I think ValDic is code for " I have no BackBone ". I guess you could walk right into his house carrying a tree frog and take what you want by threating to harm the frog. " Give me your wallet or I will harm this Frog!"
Hahaha Wuss...
I think as stewarts of the planet, we have a responsibility to protect wildlife as well as keep our Navy the best in the world. I think the measures being taken for the upcoming Hawaii exercise will aid in that protection.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/navysonar.htm (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/navysonar.htm)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/276873_sonar08.html (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/276873_sonar08.html)
QuoteWho are you?!
Devil's advocate, more than anything. I think that not wanting to potentially harm marine mammals is that extreme, but apparently an unpopular opinion in this forum.
9 years PMEL USAF.
Quote from: flew-da-coup on 07-10-2006 -- 11:49:41
I think ValDic is code for " I have no BackBone ". I guess you could walk right into his house carrying a tree frog and take what you want by threating to harm the frog. " Give me your wallet or I will harm this Frog!"
Hahaha Wuss...
This forum is all about open discussion and I don't really see the need for personal attacks. In fact, I'm pretty sure that they are counter-productive to the process. Who wants to weigh in with a different opinion knowing that they are going to be ridiculed for it?
Anyway, I know that you are passionate about your causes flew-da-coup (as are many of the forum members), but let's keep the discussion on topic and refrain from the personal attacks. Thanks.
Quote from: Valdic on 07-07-2006 -- 17:07:33
The right wing weights in again...
Hey Hoopty....................this was VALDIC's very first post. How do you expect it to be handled?????
Does anyone know for a fact if any frequency SONAR hurts marine mammals?????? Anyone.....anyone at all????
I know the answer is...................NO. Nobody knows, Everyone can speculate about it, but nobody knows.
They just did all kinds of test off the coast of NC with SONAR.........you guessed it....good fishing, no beached whales/dolphins...etc. Even the elusive endangered (my ass) sea turtles where around...................hmmm turtle stew.............I digress.........SONAR has been being used for a long....long time.
Quote from: Hoopty on 07-10-2006 -- 13:34:24
Quote from: flew-da-coup on 07-10-2006 -- 11:49:41
I think ValDic is code for " I have no BackBone ". I guess you could walk right into his house carrying a tree frog and take what you want by threating to harm the frog. " Give me your wallet or I will harm this Frog!"
Hahaha Wuss...
This forum is all about open discussion and I don't really see the need for personal attacks. In fact, I'm pretty sure that they are counter-productive to the process. Who wants to weigh in with a different opinion knowing that they are going to be ridiculed for it?
Anyway, I know that you are passionate about your causes flew-da-coup (as are many of the forum members), but let's keep the discussion on topic and refrain from the personal attacks. Thanks.
Coup-I'm more partial to spotted owls than frogs... :lol:
Hoopty-No harm, he was provoked.
Quote from: MIRCS on 07-10-2006 -- 15:20:55
Hey Hoopty....................this was VALDIC's very first post. How do you expect it to be handled?????
My point exactly! It was his first post and he is hit with a personal attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_attack). What a way to welcome the new guy. Granted his post
was provocative, there was no reason to defame his character. I wouldn't blame anyone for not returning for more of the same.
In fact, I happen to know that there are several active members who refrain from posting in certain topics due to this same tactic. As the administrator of this site, I've let some questionable things go in the name of free speech (the muslim threads come to mind), but I just can't continue to let this kind of stuff go on. Even if it is not meant to be personal, it is being perceived that way and is stifling the forum.
As for what I expect, I expect the members of this forum to handle it by discussing the topics intelligently and openly, and not by intimidation.
I guess we could just lay off the political stuff. I didn't mean any harm. It was his post about the "Right Wing" stuff that made me jump. Sorry, please slap me Hoopty. I will put a tighter muzzle on myself. :-( Plus I was caught on a very bad day.
It's cool. I know you don't mean any harm...
Let's all simmer down a bit....Hey Valdic, you wouldn't happen to be from San Fran, would ya? :-D
Welcome to tha Forum, dude! Don't mind Coup, he gets a lil high strung at times. Maybe he forgot his meds. :? All those years being around Marines.... :-D
As for spotted owls I agree with you. They taste much better fried than those pesty tree frogs.... :mrgreen:
Quote from: PMEL_DEVIL-DOG on 07-11-2006 -- 14:26:58
....Hey Valdic, you wouldn't happen to be from San Fran, would ya? :-D
Sorry, dude, not from San Fran, but you should check out the Village Voice.
I see you're at Ft. Lewis, WA. My brother lives in Eatonville (not too far from there) and works on Strykers for General Dynamics. Pretty country out there; I'll drop you a line next time I visit...
I love the Northwest. Great being in proximity to the ocean, mountians, wine country, great music, and our nieghbors to the North. The worst things are traffic and the overinflated housing market. Lots of Active Duty and retirees here as well, so common ground with many folks.
So, how's the fishing? (THERE, I'm on topic!) BTW, whales aren't fish. :-D
Next time you go past Parkland roll down your window just a little and say hey to Freezers mom and pop. I wouldn't stop there anymore though, turning into a tough neighborhood. Better than Ponders corner, but not much!
May not be fish, but they sure tast like chicken
It's all in how you cook them! low and slow... :-)