Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...

Started by flew-da-coup, 04-06-2006 -- 09:27:41

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docbyers

I don't disagree with FDC too much, but being a practicing Christian and an American, I believe that any religion has the right to practice its beliefs- to a point.  If you don't agree with my religion, I don't get to kill you.  I wish the Islamic people felt the same way...  I worship the same God they do; I just call Him a different name, and get His word from a different book, so what's the big deal?  His Son never told me to go out and kill people if they don't subscribe to my beliefs.

FDC's solution is simplistic, effective, and would solve a great deal of the world's problems.  Unfortunately it'll never happen.  Every now and then a Crusade isn't a bad idea, but they've seldom worked before, so we have to try something else.  Hopefully Dr. Rice will think of something; she's pretty smart.
If it works, it's a Fluke.

flew-da-coup

Doc, if you are a Christian then you know that the " Wicked People" that the Old Testament refers to are Arabs today. I also do not like to correct people, but I think you misspoke about their God and Your God are the same. I beg to differ, Allah is not the same God. The Koran (Quran) clarifies this. It is a common mistake made among Christians that Allah and Jehovah are the same. I also understand where you are coming from in that they say they believe the books of Moses. However, that is not completely true either. They have perverted the book of Genesis in order for them to claim the birth right. Remember, God Himself instructed Isreal to kill these very people because of their wickedness. God even said for Isreal to kill their animals.
You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume.Leviticus 19:35

docbyers

You're absolutely correct.  Remember, it all started with Isaac and Ishmael...
If it works, it's a Fluke.

flew-da-coup

You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume.Leviticus 19:35

docbyers

Bush's Message: I Won't Enforce Laws We Have Until I Get the Laws I Want
by Mac Johnson

President Bush tonight gave a hopeful speech on immigration reform.  And by that I mean he hopes you believe his speech.  Unfortunately for Mr. Bush, and for our nation, the American people no longer trust the leaders of either party to make an earnest effort to enforce the law when it comes to stopping the corruption of illegal immigration.

Perhaps trust is so totally lacking because Mr. Bush has been President now for five years and has done nothing to seriously address the issue of uncontrolled borders until tonight.  Indeed, illegal border infiltration and visa fraud have gotten far worse during his presidency. 

Yet these problems did not seem to bother Mr. Bush until backlash against them threatened his long-desired "temporary" guest-worker program and a stealth amnesty for the 10 million to 20 million immigration criminals already here.  (And bear in mind that legalization, whether we call it "amnesty" or "earned citizenship" or any other name, will allow these 10 million 20 million to bring their extended families into the United States under family reunification laws, so we are really talking about legalizing around 40 million persons, most of whom are not yet in the country at all.)

Or perhaps mistrust of our leaders over "comprehensive" immigration reform is so total because we've been sold that bridge once before.  In 1986, we were told that simply enforcing our existing immigration laws was an unrealistic approach and so we had no choice but to allow Congress to pass a comprehensive reform bill—one that included both increased law enforcement and an amnesty of the 3 million immigration criminals already in America.  Common sense dictated a "carrot and stick" approach, we were told.  Congress gave away the carrots just fine, but somehow it never got around to using the stick.

As a direct result, today our illegal immigration problem has grown from a quaint 3 million to at least 11 million—and by some estimates 20 million.  Far from bringing people "out of the shadows" as was promised, "comprehensive" reform spread the shadow of illegal immigration across the entire nation.  What was mostly a border state problem is now a truly national problem.  Does anyone really believe that applying the same approach today will produce a different result?

The President's promise of enforcement as part of a "comprehensive" plan is thus simply unbelievable in light of past performance.  But worse yet, it is now just plain irresponsible.  Every one of the President's proposals for increased security could be passed quickly, if they were not tied to a guest worker amnesty.  Indeed, all of them could have already been passed and signed into law if they weren't being used as sugar to coat the bitter pill of legalization for millions of illegal aliens.  But the President and Senators John McCain and Teddy Kennedy (as well as others) want the amnesty giveaway so badly that they refuse to allow the Senate to vote on the enforcement measures as a separate bill, as the House of Representatives has done.

Essentially, they have offered the American people a take it or leave it deal: give us our guest worker amnesty, or we will let the whole world across our open borders until you do.  Give us the laws we want, or we will not enforce the laws we already have.

Every month that increased security measures are held up by this game of political chicken, another 30,000 to 50,000 illegal aliens sneak or lie their way into the country.  This number includes the proverbial hardworking and honest laborers, and it also includes fugitives escaping foreign courts, drug smugglers, thieves, rapists, murderers, aspiring welfare defrauders and, very probably, potential terrorists.  Yet the Bush-McCain-Kennedy axis has chosen to allow the dangerous unchecked flow to continue, creating the crisis atmosphere they know is necessary to force through a guest worker amnesty they believe they need to buy the votes of former illegal aliens and the industries that profit from their cheap labor.

If a guest-worker program and amnesty are such good ideas, then why can they not be passed as separate bills, as the increased enforcement measures easily could be?

If increased enforcement, by itself, is doomed to failure, then why do open borders advocates fear it so much?  Shouldn't they simply pass an enforcement bill and show everyone how right they were?  An amnesty could then easily be added later. 

The simple fact is that an enforcement-only approach would work better than any comprehensive bill promising legalization to lawbreakers.  And this is why every proponent of amnesty and guest worker shenanigans is working so hard to see that an enforcement-only bill will never pass—even if that means leaving America's borders wide open as long as it takes to frustrate voters into accepting a comprehensive bill.

The illogic of the comprehensive reform scam can be seen in the numerous self-contradictions the president uttered in support of it in a mere 16-minute speech.

Deporting the 11 million to 20 million illegal aliens already here is simply impossible we are told.  But then in tonight's address the President bragged that we have deported 6 million illegal aliens in just the last five years.  Why is 6 million possible and praiseworthy, but 11 million is a ludicrous impossibility?

The President bragged tonight of his commitment to deporting every illegal alien caught crossing our border.  And then reasoned that we cannot deport those that have been here illegally for a few years.  Why is it good to deport those caught at the border, but wrong to deport those that make it inland and buy a fake ID?  How is the criminal transformed by this illegal stay?

How can the President promise to use all manner of technology—motion sensors, drones, cameras, fences, vehicle barriers—to keep dangerous illegal aliens out, and then argue that those same criminal aliens become indispensable and honorable once past the gizmos?  Why bother to keep out anyone, if they all become wonderful by the time they reach Dallas?

Why, in short, would he have us believe that enforcing immigration laws at the border is a good thing, but we must not enforce immigration laws just a few miles north of the border?

Because you cannot simultaneously argue for earnestly enforcing the immigration laws in our interior and also argue for a guest worker amnesty of the millions of illegal aliens already hiding there. 

And the guest worker amnesty is the only part of the allegedly "comprehensive" bill that the President is actually interested in.  If we support the President's plan, all we can be sure we'll get is the amnesty part—just like 1986.

The only way we can secure our borders is to pass an enforcement-only bill, and then see to it that it is actually enforced.  Our nation's security cannot be held hostage to the politics of amnesty any longer.
If it works, it's a Fluke.

flew-da-coup

I voted for George W. Bush twice. I even work on both elections. I believe this is the only issue that chaps my hide. I totally disagree with him on this subject. His view is not a conservitive one. I agree last night was a political move to persuade us to back this crazy policy. DON"T DO IT. I hope that he comes to his senses, but I doubt it. One thing you can say about Bush is that he sticks to his guns. He won't back down. I am not happy about it at all. :x
You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume.Leviticus 19:35

docbyers

I agree.  I'm all for securing the border.  Send in the Guard, the Marines, the 101st Airborne, or all 3 for that matter.  Buy a zillion miles of concertina wire and electrify the damned thing.  Just keep the illegals, the drugs and the terrorists out.  Put a couple squadrons of A-10s out there for border patrol- see that Mexican with the pickup truck full of illegals?  Empty the front cannon magazine on the truck, and see what affect the depleted uranium rounds have...

Amnesty?  No way.  Ship the illegals back home.  If they want to come back, let them do it legally, and we'll welcome them with open arms.
If it works, it's a Fluke.

PMEL_DEVIL-DOG

Quote from: flew-da-coup on 05-15-2006 -- 12:51:30
The only race that I don't like are Arabs. It's not a skin color thing. It's a 9/11 thing. let me clear things up. It's not Arabs, it's Islamic poeple ( which are all just about Arab ).  Yes it is true that I have a deep bitter hate for all Islamic believers. I don't think that muslims have any place in the U.S. military. There has been 8 muslim chaplins in the U.S. military that has been convicted of spying and lets not forget about the muslim soldier that threw a grenade into his higher ups tent in Kuwait just before the invasion. Just look at them if they don't have "infidals" to kill then they are killing each other. I am not labeling them, they are doing that all by themselves. I believe the world would be a better place without Islam. I am not Jewish, but I am very Pro-Isreal. I say we help God's chosen people by wiping their enemy off the map. All of them! :x


Coup,
I used to feel the same way until I started working in an Arabic country. American people need to realize that Isalm is just Christiany. Just has you have Bapispts, Mormons, Catholics, etc, you have many branches of Isalm...

The Muslims I work with and everyone I talk to over there (U.A.E) are very saddened and angry of what these terrorist are going. according to the Quron, it is an unforgivible sin to commit sucide. The good Muslims believe that these terrorist are being deceived and are going to hell.

The Armerican public only sees what the MEDIA tells them. That's all the see is TERRORIST and ISALM being said together in the same sentence. The government controls the media, therefore controlling the thouights of the people. I do beleive that Bush has different motives for being over there and I beleive that there is more to 9/11 that we are not being told. For instance, how come you never seen any video of an airplane hitting the Pentagon? All those survillence camrams and no footage released? How come the impact hole on the world trade was a 16 foot CIRCULR hole with no wing impact marks? How come there was no aircraft wreckage at the since? How come the World Trade came down in a similiar fashion that demolications crews blow up old buildings? How come firefighters inside the world trade said they could hear multiple explosions from within the building to support this claim? How come you can actually see windows being blown out a couple of floors below the actual building falling...Don't get me started...

The truth is that you always have your bad apples in every branch. I'm flying out tomorrow for 6 weeks to go to the UAE. These guys are very cool, but on the real, I still don't trust them :-D   
"Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, South Carolina: Where young men who can't hack it, drop out, and become outstanding Air Force Officers..."

flew-da-coup

Their book does say to kill the infidel. I am the infidel. They can say what ever they want, but the fact remains that if they believe their book then they want to kill me. It's not from the media, it's from their book of death. The American media are the ones that came running to the Muslims defense after 9/11. They are not the ones painting Islam bad in our country. Muslims are doing that themselves. Islamic believers believe in peace, but not with Americans. They always say they don't hate Americans and I call BULL$h!t. It's in their book and if they believe their book then they are enemies and if they don't hate us then they are not real muslims. Also, Christians and muslims are not the same. Two different books and two different gods. Don't be fooled by their lies. I am sure that the people you worked with were happy on 9/11 too. The muslim world rejoiced that day. Look at the media in the country you work in. It's the media outlet for the terrorist. They are the ones Bin Laden sends all his tapes too. His message would not make any impact if it was not heard and the media there ( in the very country you work ) are the ones who give him and other terrorist leaders a voice. My ass they like the U.S. . There own media is Bin Ladens soap box.  The easiest enemy to kill is your friend. Of course they are going to treat you nice. So did Hannable Lector. If you recall that 2 of the terrorist were " nice and friendly" according to the people that knew them here in the U.S. DON"T BUY THE BULL CRAP.
You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume.Leviticus 19:35

flew-da-coup

I hope your joking about the 9/11 conspiracy. To believe the U.S. Government is behind any of this is paraniod thinking. I know you are joking about it, but there are stupid people out there that actually think that we did this to ourselves, even though the whole ordeal on flight 93 was recorded. For these people to make these assumptions of the U.S. having been behind (9/11 ) is absolutly un-American. Then again we are talking about people who also believe in UFO's and listen to Art Bell on the radio and believe everyone on his show is telling the truth.
You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume.Leviticus 19:35

PMEL_DEVIL-DOG

I just saying....

I love you, man! :-D

No fo real, I think there's more to it. I'll send you this link. check it out, that's all I ask....
"Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, South Carolina: Where young men who can't hack it, drop out, and become outstanding Air Force Officers..."

flew-da-coup

Now, you aren't going to want to drink beer and cry with me are you? :-D
You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume.Leviticus 19:35

Phys_dim

I just received this email from a friend and thought it was too good not to post:

"Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration.

Certain people are angry that the U.S. might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests:

Let's say I break into your house.

Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house)."

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).

If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest . um, except for ...
well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being anti-housebreaker.

Did I miss anything? Does this sound reasonable to you? If it does, grab a sign and go picket something. If this sounds insane to you, call your senators and enlighten them because they are stumbling in the darkness right now and really need your help."

docbyers

Illegal Immigrants Poem

I cross ocean,
poor and broke,
Take bus,
see employment folk.

Nice man treat me
good in there,
Say I need to
see welfare.

Welfare say,
"You come no more,
We send cash
right to your door."

Welfare checks,
they make you wealthy,
Medicaid it keep
you healthy!

By and by,
I got plenty money,
Thanks to you,
American dummy.

Write to friends
in motherland,
Tell them 'come
fast as you can.'

They come in turbans
and Ford trucks,
I buy big house
with welfare bucks

They come here,
we live together,
More welfare checks,
it gets better!

Fourteen families,
they moving in,
But neighbor's patience
wearing thin.

Finally, white guy
moves away,
Now I buy his house,
and then I say,

"Find more aliens
for house to rent."
And in the yard
I put a tent.

Send for family
they just trash,
But they, too,
draw the welfare cash!

Everything is
very good,
And soon we
own the neighborhood.

We have hobby
it's called breeding,
Welfare pay
for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist?
Wife need pills?
We get free!
We got no bills!

American crazy!
He pay all year,
To keep welfare
running here.

We think America
darn good place!
Too darn good for
the white man race.

If they no like us,
they can scram,
Got lots of room in
Pakistan.
If it works, it's a Fluke.

flew-da-coup

That makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over. Some people call this feeling RAGE. Do away with welfare!
You shall do no injustice in judgment, in measurement of length, weight, or volume.Leviticus 19:35